Paul and Jonathan connect this week to discuss the recent spat in the GNU and whether the DA has crossed one red line too many. The discussion also touches on the by-election being contested today (Wednesday 2 July) in Motherwell, Nelson Mandela Bay, metro budgets and the broader question of the accessibility of South African politics.
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The Real National Dialogue
Episode 4
Jul 02, 2025

The South Africa Brief Podcast
A podcast for people who want to see under the hood of South African politics. Former Chief Executive and Chief Strategist for the Democratic Alliance, Jonathan Moakes and Data Analyst Paul Berkowitz come together to offer an insider view on the key political issues facing South Africa.
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